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Housing, Planning, & Development Committee — 2026-02-17

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0:11Approval of the minutes of the November 10, 2025 Housing, Planning & Development Committee meeting.
Motion type(s) spoken: — · no passage phrase heard by ASR
  • 0:21 “Second?”
  • 0:22 “I'll second the motion to approve.”
0:30ORDINANCE 02-2026 - AN ORDINANCE to take effect immediately provided it receives the affirmative vote of at least two thirds of the members of Council, or otherwise to take effect and be in force after the earliest period allowed by law, to amend Chapter 1
Motion type(s) spoken: — · no passage phrase heard by ASR · ASR heard nay/opposed/abstain wording — verify
  • 16:57 “I second.”
  • 17:53 “Motion's made and seconded.”
  • 0:59 “we are now as opposed to where we started and what the next steps are and take it”
  • 3:28 “which I'm not opposed to.”
  • 9:48 “going back to 21 when we adopted 02, 775-02.”

Full ASR transcript

0:00 All right.
0:01 We'll call the February 17th, 2026 meeting of the Housing Planning and Development meeting
0:06 to order.
0:07 We do have all members of the committee present.
0:11 Two items on the agenda.
0:12 First is the approval of minutes from the November 10th, 2025 Housing Planning and
0:17 Development Committee.
0:18 Do I hear a motion?
0:19 So moved.
0:20 It was my wedding anniversary.
0:21 Second?
0:22 I'll second the motion to approve.
0:26 All in favor?
0:27 Aye.
0:28 Motion carries.
0:29 Thank you.
0:30 Next item of business, ordinance 02-2026, establishing regulations for front yard plantings.
0:40 This is something that's come back in the docket.
0:41 We spent some time last year about this.
0:43 I'd like to thank Councilman Baker and Commissioner Parmelee for their work on this thus far
0:50 and bringing this back to the attention of the committee and of full council.
0:55 Without further ado, I'll turn it over to Commissioner Parmelee to talk about where
0:59 we are now as opposed to where we started and what the next steps are and take it
1:06 away.
1:07 Good evening.
1:09 Where we are now is where we left off.
1:11 We had, you know, budget season hit, elections, all that good stuff, didn't fall off the
1:19 radar.
1:20 2025 was a really busy year for housing and building.
1:25 26 hasn't slowed down either.
1:28 So we're looking to get this thing through.
1:31 I anticipate one more committee meeting because part of my homework was to update
1:37 figures one and two in the proposal, which I just flat out didn't have time to do.
1:44 So going to carve out some time and get that done before next committee meeting.
1:48 I just wanted to clarify, because we had a couple of edits here, understanding folks
1:54 want to use more of the corner lot and the interior lot.
1:58 So just for my own notification, so I know what I'm doing, I look at the two-foot
2:03 setback from the public right-of-way, which would be the private side of the sidewalk,
2:08 give us two-foot buffers there, along with the two-foot buffers on either side
2:15 of the interior lot, which would essentially give us a four-foot sight triangle, which
2:21 the sight triangle is something I was trying to accomplish in the beginning.
2:25 So we don't have this, you know, everybody has their own opinion on what, you know,
2:31 well-manicured natural landscaping looks like.
2:34 But being kind of the third leg in the stool of public safety, I just want to
2:40 make sure that, you know, right-of-way pedestrians, folks on bikes taking walks
2:46 aren't going to be in harm's way when cars are backing out of driveways.
2:50 It's kind of my primary goal here.
2:53 Try to limit that stuff to three-foot, you know, understanding that some
2:57 folks really don't have much of backyards and they want to do raised garden beds
3:01 out front. They want to plant their veggies and some tomato plants and stuff
3:04 in the front yard and welcome those pollinators.
3:08 Without them, none of us would be sucking air right now, honestly.
3:12 So I just want to make sure that I'm correct when it comes to these setbacks
3:19 that we edited.
3:21 Again, pulling it a little closer to the right-of-way on the corner lots,
3:28 which I'm not opposed to.
3:30 There is a few lots.
3:32 It's going to be the northwest corner of Clarence and Franklin is one that
3:38 really catches my mind.
3:40 The guy's got some growth.
3:42 He's gotten better over the years, not having stuff hanging over the sidewalk.
3:46 My problem is your front tires shouldn't have to be on the crosswalk
3:50 to look left and right.
3:52 Kids are already on top of you, you know, or that guy that runs,
3:56 I obviously don't, but those folks that are out there trying to enjoy those
4:00 public pathways.
4:03 Again, not trying to regulate what you plant in your front yard,
4:06 although there's regulations in here, just to kind of help manage the height
4:11 and give the property maintenance inspectors clear directive,
4:15 because those are the folks' boots on the ground that have to enforce,
4:19 you know, especially when it comes to the high grass rags.
4:22 So that's what I'm looking for this evening, just some clarification
4:26 so I can get these figures dialed in.
4:28 Those figures are important with this ordinance.
4:31 I mean, a lot of folks are visual learners, and to be able to have
4:34 something to show them, aside reading, you know, some boring black and white
4:38 context, that's hard to interpret.
4:42 Thanks, Commissioner, for the background.
4:44 I'll just say from my, I heard a lot about this over the summer
4:49 on the block party circuit, a lot from people who already are doing this
4:54 in their yards, and their concern is obviously what's, you know,
4:57 can you not just come and like mow down two feet of mine?
5:00 It's not going to happen.
5:02 And then the other concern, just with, as it's written, is the eight inches
5:06 for that, that that two-foot buffer seemed a little low to them,
5:11 given the types of plants they're using.
5:12 So that's just the feedback I've been hearing.
5:14 I'm going to turn it over to my colleagues, too,
5:16 because I know they've been hearing about it as well.
5:18 But that's from me.
5:19 But do either of my other colleagues on the committee
5:23 have any questions or comments at this time?
5:26 Yeah, and this is, so there were, and thank you, Mr. Chair,
5:32 and thank you, Commissioner Parmenly, and this,
5:34 to kind of give some procedural history of kind of why we're here
5:38 and kind of what has come before.
5:41 You know, basically, the way, based upon feedback
5:48 from Keep Lakewood Beautiful and a couple committee hearings,
5:51 some public input, really all we've changed here
5:55 is some of the buffers, right?
5:56 I think originally, as introduced, the buffer was a little bigger.
5:59 I think two feet is essentially a lot more width.
6:03 You know, it kind of was what I was thinking when we did this.
6:06 And really, what it does is then we also point back
6:09 to section 177501B and section 177502,
6:16 which, nerdy talk, 177501B is,
6:22 it can't hang over the sidewalk.
6:24 So if you have a plant that hangs over,
6:25 think of the visual plane of the right-of-way, right?
6:28 So if a plant hangs over and it hits your stroller or your bike
6:32 or when you're going by, you can't do that.
6:35 And then, this is actually a typo, 177502
6:38 is where the three feet comes from, right?
6:41 That's, so it already, in our code,
6:44 enables the building and housing department
6:47 to cite someone if it's above three feet
6:51 and it's a safety issue because you can't see from the road
6:54 or the public right-of-way.
6:55 So what we're trying to say here,
6:57 and welcome any input, because this
6:59 is the best I could come up with as I drafted it
7:04 or edited it from Commissioner Parmelee's introduction,
7:07 was you can't have turf grass above eight
7:10 inches in that area, right?
7:12 In the, well, you can't have turf grass,
7:15 you can't just let turf grass grow.
7:17 You can't do that.
7:18 Building department will cite you.
7:20 We don't want some Atlantean landlord saying, no,
7:22 that's a native planter meadow or whatever.
7:25 You want to be able to cite for those purposes.
7:29 But beyond that buffer, you have a little bit more
7:32 kind of freedom as a property owner
7:34 because it doesn't affect the public, right?
7:37 The further you are from sight lines
7:39 and the ability of people to safely go from point A
7:42 to point B, whether it's in a car or walking
7:44 or a stroller or a mobility device,
7:47 it's more kind of your zone of influence
7:49 as the property owner.
7:50 And you can plant a sunflower outside of those buffers.
7:54 You can plant tomato plants.
7:55 You can plant whatever you want.
7:57 And this ordinance will allow it.
7:59 Right now, this is going to kind of codify
8:02 what's already happening in Lakewood in some senses.
8:05 As you go around, you see folks with trellises
8:08 and planters in their front yard.
8:10 I thank you for not citing them for having those things
8:12 because they look OK.
8:13 But I think we're just trying
8:15 to provide people with more certainty,
8:16 regulatory perspective that they can have those things.
8:20 So that was kind of the intent
8:21 of where we're going with it.
8:23 Commissioner Parmar is going to update the exhibits,
8:25 which I think will be helpful because it is helpful
8:27 for people to see.
8:29 But really what this is about is about keeping
8:31 the traveling public, whether they're traveling in cars
8:34 or walking or biking or on a mobility device, safe,
8:38 having some uniformity, but giving people the right
8:40 to do what's acceptable on their private property.
8:45 Thanks, Councilman.
8:45 Appreciate that for hopefully people watching at home, too.
8:49 This has been a hot minute since we've talked about
8:51 this, so the background is certainly welcome.
8:55 Yes, Councilman Bullock.
8:57 Councilman Baker, where is the typo?
9:01 In the new proposed provision 177503 in B4,
9:11 it says section 177501B, and it should be
9:16 and section 177502.
9:19 It just says 1175, so that's the typo.
9:30 It's supposed to read 177502.
9:33 There's a double one.
9:35 The reason I ask, I'm trying to make sure
9:39 it's all parsing exactly.
9:40 But OK, I appreciate the discussion, Commissioner
9:45 Parmar, you've been working on this for a while,
9:48 going back to 21 when we adopted 02, 775-02.
9:55 What is the practical enforcement for tree lawns?
10:01 If I understand this correctly,
10:02 what we're talking about is front yards, not tree lawns.
10:05 People do plan all the time on tree lawns.
10:08 If it's three feet high and it's blocking right away,
10:15 right now, it's already not allowed.
10:18 And the proposal doesn't change.
10:20 What we're discussing today wouldn't change that right,
10:22 although it kind of.
10:24 Negative, it doesn't touch anything on tree lawns.
10:27 So what do we do now when tree lawns are?
10:29 Overgrown.
10:30 If it's high grass, we decide to cut.
10:33 Is the city going to go out and take action?
10:36 Or that would be a later step, not the first step.
10:41 Take action on tree lawns?
10:42 If they have plants that are too high?
10:44 Take our equipment out and do it ourselves.
10:45 Are you talking about the tree lawn,
10:46 or are you talking about the front yard?
10:47 Well, the tree lawn, if it's obtrusive
10:51 and it's growing on the public right away,
10:53 that's a conversation we'd have to have with Public Works.
10:58 OK, but first step would be you
11:00 to advise the property owner, or no?
11:04 Tree lawn or front yard?
11:04 Tree lawn, tree lawn, tree lawn.
11:07 Again, if it's high grass, we decide to cut it.
11:11 But if there's folks, A, there
11:13 should be no growth on the tree lawn
11:15 because that's not their property, right?
11:17 They should probably obtain permission
11:19 from the Public Works director to do that.
11:21 Do people do it all the time?
11:23 Yes, and Edgewater Lake.
11:25 I'll let Director Gordon know he's going to have a,
11:28 may I plant petunias email?
11:30 But again, I mean, if it was obstructing
11:34 the public right of way, yeah, we'd cite them.
11:36 I mean, do we, I mean, last year,
11:41 380, 400 high grass notices?
11:43 I mean, we're not going to knock on everybody's door
11:45 and remind them that they have a civic duty
11:47 to take care of their property.
11:49 With rolling out a new ordinance
11:51 when it comes to enforcement,
11:53 are we going to reach out with some kid gloves
11:55 in the beginning?
11:56 Probably, just like we do any time
11:58 we roll out a new ordinance.
12:01 It's related because I know your concern is a good one,
12:06 which is how do we efficiently, first of all,
12:09 how do we have a clear standard to know
12:10 what's allowed, what's not allowed,
12:11 and then secondly, how do we enforce,
12:13 really, building department.
12:16 Fair statement is 80% public education,
12:19 20% enforcement.
12:21 But I was thinking of,
12:22 you're planting tall sunflowers on the tree lawn.
12:27 It's not ugly, but it could certainly obscure
12:30 at least some views, and currently,
12:34 your action would be to advise them to take it down?
12:40 Well, if they're planting sunflowers on tree lawns,
12:42 that's not covered in this ordinance.
12:44 So again, I assume the public works director
12:46 would have issue with that.
12:48 Okay. Okay, so that's an important point.
12:49 So the building department is not going around
12:54 including the tree lawn in its...
12:57 In this ordinance?
12:59 No, just general.
13:01 General for high grass, like I stated before,
13:03 if it's high grass, yes.
13:05 Okay, thank you.
13:06 100%. That answers my question.
13:07 Yep.
13:10 So I'll...
13:11 I guess if we're bringing this back,
13:13 I'll make sure I've given it a detailed reading
13:18 beyond what's here.
13:19 I think, in general, we're in the right place.
13:24 I guess my one last question for the committee is,
13:27 how do we...
13:29 Are anybody's planting's grandfathered in?
13:32 I can think of a lot of people,
13:34 well, some people who have invested a fair amount of...
13:39 For years on their properties and...
13:41 Right.
13:42 I mean, we take it as a case by case kind of complaint
13:46 because these are complaints that come through,
13:47 but the Councilman Baker's point
13:51 that if it's intruding into the public right of way,
13:54 it's already not permitted.
13:56 So we already have the right to be able to cite that.
14:00 Like on our street, XYZ address
14:03 with the blueberry bushes
14:05 that have come up from time to time.
14:08 Those are planted up to the public right of way,
14:10 but once they start hanging over into the public right
14:13 of way, it's an issue.
14:15 So if a complaint comes in,
14:18 we have a new ordinance on the books.
14:20 I hate comparing codified ordinances
14:22 to state building codes,
14:23 but there is the Ohio existing building code
14:26 that lets existing conditions exist,
14:29 and we've all worked with each other
14:31 for a really long time.
14:33 I'm pretty liberal when it comes to enforcing
14:35 some of these codes, especially new ones.
14:40 It'll be a...
14:43 It'll be a learning curve for all of us.
14:45 Okay, and so also it's not a proactive thing.
14:48 So will building department personnel
14:53 who do exterior code compliance,
14:55 I think we do a great job with our system
14:57 where we proactively will walk streets
14:59 and assess one, two, three, four.
15:02 That's different, though, than issuing a citation, right?
15:07 But I think you said it before.
15:09 I just want to make sure I understand
15:10 that what we envision for enforcement under this
15:12 would be complaint-driven?
15:14 It's, I'd say, going to be about 90% complaint-driven.
15:18 I mean, trouble finds us.
15:20 We usually don't have time to go find it, so yeah.
15:24 Okay, thanks.
15:24 Yep.
15:25 Yeah, it's not going to be a witch hunt.
15:27 We're not going to be looking for these,
15:28 but again, if there is something that has existed
15:33 and it's intrusive and it's growing across
15:36 the public right-of-way, then...
15:38 Yeah, I'm not, my questions aren't driving at anything,
15:40 and I'm trying to understand and think it through myself
15:44 because there's cases where clearly there are problems
15:48 that need to be addressed.
15:50 The city needs to have a clear set of standards
15:53 and a system to address it.
15:54 There are other, there are going to be other cases
15:56 that by the reasonable person, I know it when I see it,
16:01 standard aren't going to be problematic for most people,
16:04 and I guess the implication here is that
16:07 those probably aren't going to generate complaints.
16:12 They may be technically noncompliant,
16:13 but they may not find themselves getting a citation.
16:17 Yeah, it's going to be a coaching moment
16:19 with the property maintenance staff, for sure.
16:23 Any other members of council not in the committee
16:25 have any comments or questions?
16:29 I'll make a motion to amend, to remove,
16:34 to edit just so we have the right version the next time.
16:37 So I'll make a motion to amend 1775-03B-4
16:46 to strike 117502 from the last sentence
16:52 and add 1775.02.
16:57 I second.
17:02 All in favor?
17:03 Aye.
17:05 All right, thanks everybody.
17:06 I think I agree with everybody.
17:08 We're there in the spirit of this,
17:10 and I tend to agree that the eight inches
17:12 in that two feet makes sense
17:13 is that it's basically now universal for everybody, right?
17:17 Everybody's playing by the same rule, it's just.
17:19 Kiss theory has its worth.
17:22 And I can see how that makes it just a simpler thing
17:25 for everybody involved instead of having two separate,
17:28 completely separate different rules
17:29 for different sets of folks.
17:31 So I appreciate that.
17:33 With no other questions,
17:36 at the request of Commissioner Parmelee,
17:38 I will make a motion to defer.
17:40 We'll talk about this one more time briefly in committee
17:43 and before it comes back to council.
17:48 We did.
17:49 Yeah.
17:53 Motion's made and seconded.
17:55 All in favor?
17:55 Aye.
17:56 Aye.
17:57 Thank you very much.
17:58 Thank you, Commissioner Parmelee.
17:59 There's no more business before this committee,
18:01 so the meeting of the Housing Planning
18:04 and Development Committee is adjourned.
18:05 Thank you.