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Public Works & Sustainability Committee — 2026-01-20

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0:13Approval of the minutes of the October 13, 2025 Public Works & Sustainability Committee meeting.
Motion type(s) spoken: — · no passage phrase heard by ASR
  • 0:22 “motion to approve. Can I hear a second? Second. All those in favor? Aye.”
0:32RESOLUTION 2026-01 - A RESOLUTION to take effect immediately provided it receives the affirmative vote of at least two thirds of the members of Council, or otherwise to take effect and be in force after the earliest period allowed by law, approving the use
Motion type(s) spoken: — · no passage phrase heard by ASR
  • 10:07 “Can I hear a second? Second. All those in”
  • 10:49 “made and seconded. All in favor. Aye.”

Full ASR transcript

0:00 All right, good evening everybody. I'd like to call the January 20th, 2026 meeting
0:06 of the Public Works and Sustainability Committee into order. We do have all
0:09 three members of the committee present. Just two items on the agenda this
0:13 evening. First, approval of the minutes from the October 13th, 2025
0:19 meeting of the Public Works and Sustainability Committee. I'll make a
0:22 motion to approve. Can I hear a second? Second. All those in favor? Aye.
0:28 Motion carries. Next item, resolution 2026-01. This is in regards to submerged
0:38 lands lease that a resident is acquiring for some work for stabilizing
0:44 their their yard and property. I believe we're gonna hear from members
0:49 of the administration today, so I will turn it over to, is it Mr. Papke,
0:54 Director Gordon, or Director Vargo who wants to go first? Yes, I'll go. Okay,
0:59 great, thank you. All right, good evening. So the submerged land lease is for
1:06 the Krebs property located at 1040 Forest Cliff Drive. So they want to do
1:15 some revetment work along the bluff of their property and also includes
1:22 a tower with a proposed crib pier. This one that's before us was a little bit
1:32 unusual because we do have an outfall that extends off of the Krebs property.
1:42 So we did a lot of discussions with ODNR on this submerged land lease
1:49 because, you know, for one we didn't want to stop the Krebs from doing, you know,
1:56 any improvements to their property and, you know, trying to stop the erosion.
2:02 But on the other hand, you know, we have to protect our interest in our
2:06 outfall that's there in case, you know, we have to get in there and do
2:10 any work. So in doing some thorough research and that we don't have any,
2:17 we never had any easements for the outfall or the storm line that goes
2:24 through the property. So we worked with ODNR, the Krebs, and our consultant
2:33 that does all of our coastal engineering. And we obtained an
2:39 easement on their property both upland and within this submerged land lease
2:48 area to protect the city's interest as well as being able to provide them
2:56 their submerged land lease so that they could properly do their stone
3:02 revetment and their project. So what you have before you is a submerged land
3:10 lease that references this recorded easement that has, you know, we work
3:16 with the law department as well to craft the permanent storm easement that
3:22 references the submerged land lease as well that area that will provide the
3:29 city, you know, future access maintenance and that if in the future we need to do
3:36 any improvements to our storm outfall.
3:42 Done these before in the past for this very reason. This is the first time we
3:46 worked with one where there was an outfall. It's like the first, our
3:50 first go at this where we had a... Yeah, this is the first one that there's
3:55 an outfall on the property that is there. And actually, OJNR, this was
4:01 something new for them too with the private property being there. So, you
4:06 know, we worked all collectively together to make sure that we got this right.
4:11 And I'll just one more thing and I'll turn it over to unless anybody else
4:15 from the administration has any comments. So everybody, like from the
4:17 administration side, we're all satisfied with the work done here
4:20 that they'll serve the city well, the easement, and still be allowed the
4:24 homeowner to the autonomy to do their work. Yes. Okay. Any other comments
4:29 from the administration? Director Gordon, Director Varrio? No, thank you,
4:34 Mr. Chair. Other than Ms. Swallow worked with Public Works and Mr.
4:38 Papke on drafting the easement and getting clearance from OJNR,
4:44 it was a process that took some time, months. But from the
4:48 law standpoint, very satisfied with the terms of the easement. Great.
4:53 Thank you, Director. Director Gordon? Thank you, Mr. Chair. And yeah,
4:57 I mean, just, you know, just so everybody's aware that when we do
5:03 bring it, you know, to council's approval and we do bring it
5:06 before city council, at that point, rest assured that on my end,
5:10 I'm making sure that everything is approved on our end with Mark
5:15 and myself. And when we bring it to council, it is the final step.
5:20 So at that point, it's met all approvals. Normally, it comes from
5:24 the law department. But if we are going to give it to the law
5:27 department to bring it to council, that all I's are dotted
5:31 and T's are crossed on our end at that point. Great. Thank you.
5:34 I'll turn it over to committee members first, if you have any
5:36 questions. None from the committee. Vice President Baker, do you
5:43 have any questions or comments? Sure. Thank you, Chair. This is
5:49 so it looks like, you know, we're getting a storm sewer easement
5:54 over the back of their property where our infrastructure is.
5:57 And then we have the right to access along the 25 feet of
6:00 the property line. Is that roughly accurate? Yeah, both
6:05 upland and then within that submerged land lease area, the
6:08 entire submerged land lease area that's identified as
6:11 parcel one on the exhibit. And so and that's because
6:17 it appears as though they're going to build basically a
6:20 revetment out into the water to to allow for basically sand
6:27 and sediment to not so that it kind of fortifies their
6:30 property. Is that that's kind of out of the scope of our
6:33 easement. But just curious as to what the intention? Yeah,
6:35 I mean, the stone revetments really, you know, try to
6:38 cease the wave action against, you know, further
6:43 eroding their property away. So actually, it benefits the
6:47 city as well with their planned improvements there as
6:52 well with that storm outfall. Because it will help protect
6:55 our storm outfall? It will. And is this a sanitary CSO or
7:00 is this just a storm? A storm. So as far as like
7:04 future maintenance, we don't see any kind of near term need
7:08 for access or maintenance? At this time, no. Okay. And
7:13 then that's interesting. So how many how many stormwater
7:17 pipes do we have under people's property that I
7:21 assume it actually happens often that we have pretty
7:24 deep pipes and maybe don't have recorded easements for
7:26 them? I mean, we have like 58 outfalls along the the
7:31 bluff that are basically, you know, identified as like
7:35 12 inch or larger.
7:39 And for most of those, we don't have recorded easements
7:43 for us. Yeah, I mean, a lot of these, you know, put in in
7:47 the early 1900s, maybe even early 1800s. Yeah. Yeah, it's
7:55 a problem for me and my day job because a lot of other
7:58 cities that have joined Metro Parks property just have
8:01 outfalls. And then they, they look at us and they're
8:05 like, why aren't you fixing that outfalls? Outfall
8:07 doesn't serve us serves you the city. So you should
8:09 probably fix it. So I'm glad it's so this seems and
8:13 thankful. The only reason I went to committee at least
8:16 because it was part of a big docket. I kind of wanted to
8:18 understand the issue better. Trust your guys's work. Looks
8:22 like we protected the city in the sense that we have
8:23 future access rights and also maintenance obligations
8:27 associated with what is our infrastructure. And then we
8:30 went through the process with ODNR. This homeowners
8:33 improving their property, improving their shoreline
8:35 erosion. This looks good to me. Is Forest Cliff Drive
8:41 one of those like private drives or is it a dedicated
8:45 planet street for the city of Lakewood? It's dedicated
8:49 right away. Okay. I have no other questions. Anything
8:57 else from members of council? Well, I'll echo
9:00 Councilman Baker's thanks to everybody for working so
9:03 hard on this. Seemed like it was a tricky one, but
9:06 now we have a system in place for the next time
9:09 this happens, which I would imagine we'll be
9:11 seeing more of these as the years go on. Trying
9:14 to protect that shoreline that's been there for
9:16 quite some time. So thanks to everybody. So with
9:20 that, I will make a motion to chair. Sorry. I
9:25 just do one. It's just a general comment. I
9:27 appreciate the directors both coming in and for
9:30 scheduling this meeting because I do think this
9:32 also serves as an opportunity to educate the
9:34 public as well. What does this mean? What are
9:37 they doing? And all of that, I just think it
9:39 just it's just a nice little educational piece.
9:41 So I do appreciate taking the time to come out
9:43 and educating the public and also educating
9:45 myself as well. This has been very
9:47 informative as well. So we know exactly what
9:50 we're doing as a city and why it's important
9:53 that we do these things. So thank you very
9:55 much for taking the time and thank you for
9:57 other members of the committee for scheduling
9:58 this and for Chair Evans. Great point. Thanks,
10:02 Councilwoman Steiner. I'll make a motion to
10:05 refer this favorably back to all of council.
10:07 Can I hear a second? Second. All those in
10:10 favor. Mr. Chair, discussion real fast. I
10:13 thought one question just to the
10:15 administration. Is this the property where
10:18 there was a lot split and a new property
10:21 was built on the split lot? And if I'm
10:25 putting two and two together correctly, is
10:27 that new construction work associated
10:30 with the need to have a revetment at the
10:32 base of the cliff or that's just
10:34 circumstantial? No, I think you're thinking
10:36 of maybe Erie Cliff. Okay. This is not
10:39 that at all. Okay. Very good. Thank you.
10:45 Sure. All right. So the motion has been
10:49 made and seconded. All in favor. Aye.
10:54 Motion carries. Thanks again, everybody.
10:56 There's no further business before this
10:58 committee, so we'll adjourn.